Shane Dawson and Lisbug's breakup had "many layers."
"I think a lot of people just assume, 'Oh, Shane wanted to come out,'" he said. "But, no. We literally broke up a long time [before that] — slowly — and that had way more to do with, literally, like all the other issues, mental issues."
"Breakups are so awful," Lisa added, "and the one with you was awful because it was just so painful... But at the same time, then I was proud of you. This is complicated, [there were] many layers... Then once we got past that stuff, I was proud for you."
Shane and Lisa were each other’s support system.
Shane and Lisa, once a YouTube power couple, provided support and understanding during the tumultuous time they were together. "That period of time I think was very, like, we needed each other because we were both a little lost in so many different ways," Shane said. "It was very much a family bond [that we had] and almost trauma bonding... We'd cry a lot together."
"I think we both just really wanted to figure out why we were so f--ked up, and it was nice to be with somebody who knew what it felt like to have problems," Shane added. "I think we kept each other alive."
Lisa pointed out they "were very young" when they dated, saying, "I mean I was a little bit older, but I think we were just like growing into ourselves and we were just doing it together… We were able to confide in each other."
Shane and Lisa’s current partners are totally cool with their friendship.
"It’s very chill," Shane noted. "There’s no weirdness at all."
Lisa said Ryland "has been so nice to me," and Jeff is glad Shane is part of their lives. "I think he respects you," she said. "I think he loves you, and you support me, and he can’t ask for anything better."
For more on Lisa, Shane, their breakup, and much more, check out Lisa's new book Thirty-Life Crisis.