“They’re like twins who are not the same…. They’re both very resilient, very committed, work incredibly hard, have an extraordinary sense of duty," The Crown creator Peter Morgan told Vanity Fair in a September 2020 interview. They’re both really committed to the country. They both have a strong Christian faith. They’re both girls of the war generation who switch the lights off when they leave a room. But then they had such different ideas about running the country.”
Historians and biographers beg to differ, however — suggesting that any disagreement between the two women is heightened for dramatic effect on the Netflix hit. So, did they get along?
Elizabeth “didn’t advise or offer her opinions” to Margaret, a historian says.
The Crown suggests Elizabeth and Margaret clashed during their weekly “audiences,” with the queen criticizing Margaret’s governmental austerity and refusal to impose sanctions on South Africa’s apartheid regime. But biographers Sally Bedell Smith and Clive Irving tell NBC News that the storyline appears to be inspired by a 1986 newspaper article that Buckingham Palace disputed and that may have been slanted with the journalist’s left-wing views.
“The truth of the matter is that in those audiences, the queen was always scrupulous,” said Sally, a historian and the author of Elizabeth the Queen: The Life of a Modern Monarch. “She didn’t advise or offer her opinions. It’s the last thing she would have done. She was brought up never to get involved in party politics. She would not imply she favored one position or politician over another, even in her conversations with her advisers and friends.”
The two leaders were “chalk and cheese” — but always polite to one another.
Sally says even though Margaret and Elizabeth were “what the British call ‘chalk and cheese’” — as in, more different than they appear — they were unfailing cordial.
“They had enormous respect for each other," she explained. "Thatcher was invariably deferential with the queen. She was raised with enormous reverence for the monarchy.”
Clive, the former managing editor of The Sunday Times and the author of The Last Queen: Elizabeth II’s Seventy Year Battle to Save the House of Windsor, added that Elizabeth “greatly disliked friction of any kind and favored consensus” and most reports of her opinions of prime ministers have been “largely hearsay.”
Another historian says Margaret and Elizabeth “quietly waged a war” against each other.
A different historian, meanwhile, claimed Margaret and Elizabeth’s politeness concealed a years-long battle. “For over a decade, they quietly waged a war against each other on both personal and political fronts,” Dean Palmer wrote in his book The Queen and Mrs Thatcher: An Inconvenient Relationship, per Vanity Fair.
“Elizabeth found the means to snub and undermine her prime minister through petty class put-downs and press leaks. Margaret attacked her monarch by sidelining her, upstaging her, and allowing [media mogul Rupert] Murdoch to crucify the royal family.”
For her part, Gillian based her portrayal of Margaret — who died in 2013 — on the two women’s differences.
“Apparently the queen was always confused as to why Thatcher sat so far forward, on the edge of her chair, when she was in an audience,” the actress told the magazine. “Then there’s always how deep [Margaret’s] curtsy was. … Apparently, nobody curtsied as deep as Margaret Thatcher. There’s a lot written about their differences and how much they didn’t get along — the fact that the royal family felt she was vulgar, and that a lot of her mannerisms were false in some way.”
Peter, Gillian’s partner, echoed the “chalk and cheese” assessment of Margaret and Elizabeth.
“And yet there [are] enough similarities to make it even more spicy,” he told the mag. “It was very satisfying writing for them both.”